It's Sunday may fourth the very first Sunday of meg and your listening to inside Austin Jim Freeman is here. He's gonna share with that's why he decided to give up his law practice in order to teach you know that in prisons that's right Jim created conviction yoga. And he'll tell you all about his journey and what you can do to help support this incredible service that no doubt has the potential to change our world. Erica from Austin parks and recreation is also here. With a call to action she wants you to do your part to make sure Austin schools stay open this summer. So if you're looking for a part time job that she can do outdoors while staying fit and enjoy flexible hours. Keep listening. That's all coming up on inside Austin. Yeah. Yeah. Back in high school and that's when I started smoking. Almost everybody in -- crowd didn't. Leave go to parties could feel awkward and cigarettes became an easy way to deal with. That preschoolers ages ago and still small. 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So to rehab the surgical way and started going to yoga classes. And they just found. So that really helps you. What like strengthen your muscles improve your flexibility right well I have a huge scar on down Wentz are my body where they had to go in and it was a very invasive surgery in -- Cut your femur ball off and replace it with a medal and in the have to replace your hip socket. And all that -- so it is huge scar. And so is just very traumatic for the body a lot of muscle cuts and talented taking -- recover from that. It would really didn't take very long I was riding my mountain bike in three weeks but it and I probably shouldn't Dan. But then I was doing I started doing yoga about a month end and did you doctor recommended that -- hidden. It. Was at risk ahead real sketchy insurance at the time so they weren't gonna pay for. Physical therapy. So I just figured I'd give myself and silenced discovered more and more -- And how did it change your life. Well ha I had been meditating for many years before this. And really love that part of my practice very you know it's a very calming practice. And then when I went to yoga discovered that it's basically meditation -- doing it for an entire hour or longer and you're doing with your body. Instead of directing your awareness to your breath like you do in a typical meditation class or whatever. You directing your. Awareness all the sensations of creating team right now it's so it's just a lot more interestingly him. It's it's sometimes a more painful way -- -- I mean that whole idea of being comfortable in an uncomfortable position and sometimes -- downward facing dog and of economic I was going to be at risk. But the way that I feel afterward I noticed is that kind of unlike any other experience and of course. That's when I'm out of practice like when I'm dealing more regularly than it hurts less well. Because there is a yoga fitness just like if you went to around town lake today and you hadn't been running a long time it's gonna hurt way more than it would indeed a couple of months in. So there's a yoga fitness as a mountain -- fitness. So at what point did you decide that he gets certified as a yoga teacher well. Was -- -- dharma yellow that's my home studio. And Keefe the owner Keith Kutcher he encouraged to me I've been going really regular like almost every day for seven or eight months. And it I just really wanted to -- my practice and learn more about yoga. And so -- -- a decide a sign up for the teacher training with really no intention of teaching at all. But then in this in the student teaching process and stuff I just really enjoyed it -- -- I just find it very surrender. In very vulnerable and a lot of waste and you're just kind of printing your heart out there for everyone to see and it was just a really beautiful process teaching itself. And -- fell in love about and then. As I started doing and as over the course of that teacher training started realizing that. That I should do yoga and do it for free. Because youngest so it's pretty cost prohibitive I mean most really is that you don't think about that but that's China's. I mean it's you know if he figures he tried to do yoga three times a week at a yoga studio that's about fifty bucks or -- -- that's not ever not everybody has disposable income fifty bucks a week. So I was like I'm gonna bring it to. Sections of the population can't afford. Seems like account aren't you have mentality considering that you were working as a litigator at the time right right so your lawyer by trade and you you got into this experience and said. This this this needs to happen. And then so the first part the first when the idea was Germany it was all it's going to be disenfranchised groups homeless shelters possibly. You know just people that couldn't afford it and a and then one day a friend of mine has been -- -- to garner about switches to the juvenile. Until I don't know what he called juvenile lockup facility. And he told me he said this relief key phrase to me. He said. GM you have to get these guys while they're young -- -- forever. -- And when I heard that like it just felt wrong you know experts. Like. What about all those mean that -- -- tolerant. They've already gone down that road they've already. Damaged their lives. So just the more and more thought about -- I don't wanna work with at risk groups I wanna work with the groups that are actually in the penitentiary. Spending multiple years wow okay so what was your next. Well this kind of been a long crazy process like nobody has ever wanted to do yoga in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice system. And so when I first started hitting people up everybody was -- right now we're not interested in doing. So in either -- you have to go through the China currency. And none of them were really interested in need to teaching yoga. Back then and I had gone to a prison. There's a giants in San Francisco and here's a project called the prison -- project. He's been taking it into -- Clinton for about twelve years 1214 years. But anyway he had a seminar basically to teach people how to teach in the potentially. Someone did the seminar. And so we hit it off right away and -- -- this is exactly what it was supposed to be doing. And so we have all these -- of becoming Mexico for Cisco going Anderson and Quinn with them. But that never really took place and we were still communicating trying to figure out of time that that would. And then one day you just mentioned to me said you know jam a couple of years ago got email from gas from Dallas that has been looking for yoga teacher. To go in with him in that in this meditation group that he. And so he said James Fox the gentleman in and so for Cisco said. Would you be willing to drive close to Dallas and and teach yoga -- its prisons and -- -- she -- I'm ready to try. And so that night he sent an email to you. This gentleman named -- Amanda had been taking its -- contemplative prayer group. End to the prison system. In Tennessee colony. Well so James sent Dennis and team. And said hey I've got -- and honest and that's willing to drive up to go to prison and teacher of the week. And so. Right after that I heard from Dennis Dennis called mean. He said you really wanna do it sounds like -- analyst. And so. The first day I go out and make arrangements to go inside the prison would live Dennis. And then as over the course of the class a state for his taught yoga to the -- -- Over the course of the class just stuck around and in just announced to the man that said. The night. That what it was a night when they were doing -- fundraiser. And they had preyed on several occasions that trade again to for our own it's a yoga teacher to appear. To go into the prison with him and his contemplative prayer group. And and it just happened to be the exact same night that the email came from James Fox. Andy -- I mean he literally walked in the door from the fundraiser. Sat down in front of his computer and there was you know my gotta love stuff like that an actress and yes that's a -- meant to be yes and so for. The first several months I was just going to that prison it's called -- with the Cofield. And it's literally that one of the nasty this prisons and taxes and -- It has the reputation in the column gladiator farms basically it's where there's a lot of young men and young men are really the most dangerous of them of the inmates typically. And -- -- you can almost like when you walk in the door you can just feel the violence commando well. It's overwhelming how large is that prison. It's over it's I think it houses over 5000. It's it's one of its might be the biggest. One of the teams. And they have you know over almost a thousand men and segregation so think about because there's so violent they can't be with regular population might elect -- kill each -- out. So okay so you're gonna go into this prison and you're gonna -- these guys some yoga. Well and found that the groups stood. Teach are considered general population at -- So they are not the ones that are the really scary guys. But it's always been my goal to get in front of the segregation does have that and on. Scares -- mean think about how much they can benefit share. -- race are started ornament in the Dennis and we did this over a month or two. And then I was like I don't wanna drive option it's a 4 hour drop -- like I wanna drive all the way over here to teach to our class and well. So what I've decided to do is pick up two more the presence in the same area so. Every Tuesday I drive to Tennessee colony and and teach in three different prisons. So that's a lot more efficient and terms of your managing your time right it just seemed like at least at Louis area. If you just sound joining us on inside Austin I'm speaking with Jim Freeman and we are talking about conviction yoga. Probably a -- the class like you've never heard of before because he's teaching it to men who are incarcerated. So Jim you are an attorney by trade at what point did you say you know what I'm gonna give up my practice and I'm gonna focus on conviction yet a full time. Well I would say it was about a year ago when I really make that decision. I had got to the point where I knew that there's no way that I can continue doing this and not do it full time. As. You because what can you saw how it was affecting these men yes I -- is. Almost immediately from the first class still be several respond to run away like when what are some of those reactions. Almost tearful sometimes corrupt to me and go and it's really funny because they're like. And where has this damn I have an unknown about innovative. They never had any more and helpful learn how to meditate they've never don't even know meditation is for the most. And then as the results of the trauma that they've experienced scrolling. The trauma they've caused themselves from their criminal activity and then the trauma they continue to receive in the -- they're just so disconnected from the bodies. Renee they have no idea how to even tuning in to the sensations -- -- so it's all brand name for them. Well that makes sense doesn't how why wouldn't they be disconnect and there are certainly a socio economic factor being exposed to meditation and -- usually comes with higher education right exactly users really you know if your if your basic needs aren't being -- Then you don't have time to seek spiritual pursue market that's about survival for a one day to the next. So how many. How many. Conviction -- the classes do you now teach in a week and how many different facilities and -- in five different facilities and five different. How different classes each warrant just has one class and a process that is a two hour class yes. OK that's -- say you can really you can get into some young militants and our class. We really can't and so can we stop a lot we go back to meditation. -- It's it's really interesting process just like I'll always have a theme that we're gonna work with -- like one day we were talking about. Everything is sacred like each one of us are sacred. The air we breathe the sacred the plant sweetie in Iraq you know we breathe out. Oxygen produced -- plants believe. And taken a CO2. That we breathe is so this guy that's in the -- relationship. And and -- -- really interesting when first introduced it to whom they're all what are you talking and a half you know that's a vocabulary and it's completely foreign -- words from. You know and and most. People in the United States group that mentality and -- -- that -- basically bad. From the beginning you know a lot of that -- this is what people think. And so what I was saying to them as that's the exact opposite that we were perfectly formed yet here. And sacred to find buyers you know in ourselves and so I would energy I introduced that topic Tim and -- really skeptical and then we would do some yoga were a little bit of Iran and and then come back into those stillness and talk about it again. And then you could see there are some obstruction -- head while. And then you go to another sequence a year come back again and and there are more and more people starting to connect with the spiritual part it's like the better years. The -- of projected start kind of being them. And how many people are in any given class and I have Warren when prison where we average over fifty. -- even in that environment it's still it's still intimate enough to get the point across yes. Yes it's it's a little unwieldy. The fifty and fifty million I would like his -- Somalia. That honestly I think I get this much I think they get as much out of it even. Is they do the man in the groups about ten -- fifteen. And even -- -- long as he's started in June of last year so not quite a year so are you seeing a difference in those guys that have stuck with the users over the year. There's no question. I and I know for sure that I've heard from correctional officers directly that. You can tell a difference in the man from week -- week. So -- you know their behavior records change. Attitudes changed they start warning to come to the chapel for other reasons. That's one thing that I really like about what it is not a present it in a very circular manner that is just spirituality. Right. And -- so what I think it does a lot of times make you more spiritually receptive to other ideas so you you know. And you might be willing to come to a Christian service or to a Muslim service or whatever in just in and they they see that that taking place this man. Become more and more active. In the Tampa city. And what is the what is your hope. Do you hope that those guys you'd do you do get released they go back into society and they they're changed absolutely changed their lives. I think what we need to remember is that one of these days if it doesn't matter. Help you know say a -- and it's continued -- he's gonna come up for parole continues. And if if he's served his sentence -- hand cut and -- you have to get you have to -- So if you haven't done anything for him to improve his behavior that he's just another threat another danger. So I think we forget about that with these long sentences that we that we and and not provide these guys have any help. And this is aware electorate is the government should be in the business of having taxpayer -- We eat in Europe is is that if you take a business plan for the government. They need to maximize the number of people that pay taxes -- home sales tax property tax income tax all I'm. And he bought the least amount of tax burdens. You want to get as many people off -- -- actual education. And it cost when he found a 30000 dollars a year -- miles an inmate in Texas. So that's a big financial burden off. So I think the goal needs to be Smart on crime and that the tough on -- And teach these men had to go back into life in the taxpayer and quit erecting these barriers to their ability to succeed. He get out of prison and you have a felony record everybody does a criminal background -- So there's no way to get a good -- there's no way to get good housing. And you're going to be back in the neighborhoods where you were ripped it and run and probably. Because that's only place you can go right and so -- -- -- it's set up for your -- -- earlier. Yeah that's and that's. You're right -- and I am struck. Biased story that I heard recently in the news hearing me say this reminds me. There's a -- jury that have recently sentenced a man to the death penalty. He had met -- -- and in. As a pen pal while he was serving time for a crime he committed and then when he got out he killed his newly married life. So now he's guilty of capital murder and so. It you know it's kind of it's what you're saying this is how you're trying to get into the guys that are even segregated the ones that are that are really. Damaged if you're on our terms of there and what they've experienced life and how they behaved. And if you could penetrate that. And if he can get inside and change and it really that's the tennis of the really does change the world doesn't. I think -- and and that's really our current look at it as if nothing else I'm putting a tent and overall human suffering. As is their suffering diminishes then that diminishes the suffering of for the whole planet. It's true it. It's really well wise wise concept. If you're just joining us on inside Austin I'm having a chat with Jim Freeman he's the founder of the conviction -- He teaches you -- that -- men who are incarcerated. In a few of the prisons here in Texas is looking to expand that program. Jim what kind of resources. Could you use right now. Money. Absolutely. And financial resources are always did yes I am right now I -- footing the bill. For for all my expenses so my time in the in the prison. It's all come now my own pocket. Which is fine and them and I'm a 100% okay with that -- to make this bigger I'm -- need more people. Right and there's not that many people that have the abilities and not work for a day. And then spend money driving to a remote prison right actually spend the whole day there you know take your whole day basically. And then drop back so I need money to be able to pay teachers and pay their expenses. So someone's listening and wants to make a contribution to your organization or. If they are yoga teacher. And they have time to volunteer. What's the best way for them to get in touch with the. Easily the best way is through my website I have. Really user friendly web site called conviction yoga dot com there's a donations page and you can. Like do you volunteer inquiries on it like he could send me email through that that says I'm a teacher and I wanted to help. You with the project and so that then that. Categorized as that response. And then there's monetary there's a PayPal thing to be just donate. And we even have been taking donations for yoga mats but I'm. I just received over a hundred you know the Mets from sunstone yoga in Dallas. And so I'm pretty set for yoga -- -- You know this conversation have been having didn't occur to me that yeah -- these guys need yoga mat and prisons obviously not gonna supply this. When NAFTA now and and when I first started going and we did it on the Concord wow yeah sounds. -- yeah. It doesn't even now -- well on concrete floors you know most of the studios have would laughs as well against yes so even with the match it's still pretty rough -- -- and wow yeah -- I often think together that are built on the inside they may just sticker once -- I have a really frequent and it's ideal for prison yeah. And that makes sense and now the young the match that you have to the prison store those for you for the next class they do actually make a donation to the -- I mean actually fill out paperwork. Conviction you know it is donating to and you know the Mets to chapel. -- and -- storm and -- I think the man can't take on that 2% share of course not. But they can practice in their cells I guess so they can practice during the week. While. You know there waiting for the and I actually in have designed. A lot of the way I teach. With that in mind. Todd I've been teaching what we call sun salutation. And -- -- says defense values it -- And and what we do is basically most of the prisons. -- floor is about the size of the other. Yeah of the bars at the top of the net if cinder block wall and -- left. Over a regular written books on the other side. And then at the academic as wasteful and ask. So you don't have much friends here. So what we do we intentionally create a yoga class within the -- and we just kind of pretend that's cute. That in and so. I trust you know also teach him stuff that we made out of the box just 'cause there's fun parts of -- Egypt. But in May actually. It's funny as them. Yesterday I was leading Cofield which is that gladiator farm place. And -- the warden was coming in as I was going -- -- -- -- has earnings and said oh you haven't could participation in class and said yes and he said. -- don't salsa and I never thought I would see. So it was nice and Meehan doing yoga in the day program. My dad. Yeah are very passionate we're watching television but I they're actually doing yoga there's some of them at least that are doing it -- and we quorum. That's right well it's an makes an acute encouraging them that you're never gonna get the full benefits of yoga at a regular practice -- once weakest. -- -- It really should be a daily thing they used for me even if it's just twenty minutes right I mean that it. Thank you start -- again in the morning it shapes your whole day on record and since the town completely. A truck in Cofield actually they all go line by annual ought to announce Wednesday. Searched the entire prison from top to bottom. And -- just went through there. Locked down. For they have to be in the -- 24/7 you can't leave for any reason -- -- bring your food. -- so a lot of demand said that the -- that's what kept them from going crazy is it because they were in lockdown for a month. So. You know doing -- -- -- was helped him in the end it -- -- is right. -- -- Fred and their cell made a right yeah. I -- for lack of better word and watches and and they get interested and they want settlement class it's that's interest saying. So is there a limit to how many people you can have the classic as the prison limit the size of class or you need to limited based on how you're teaching. I'm I -- I wouldn't be willing to teach any size. But the prisons have like a couple of prisons have kept it at 35 attack and then we have like 7080 person waiting -- and those prisons where they've kept -- so then so that means that a prisoner has actually leave her about it the class before somebody else can -- and right or. Expand into another class that's that's what. And that's why you need some volunteers for a. And now I mean I'm really I think the only way it's ever gonna be truly effective is to have multiple classes and it is not right. Right come like what you could experience that the -- right now have a choice of class. And it's kind of weird because there's all sorts of. Regulations have to follow they -- go through it would pick. They call it count. And they literally count every prisoner in the state taxes on every president has to be accounted. So that's a big chunk of the day that happens two or three times. So you have to like schedule everything around. Like you don't want -- taking place in the middle class. So there's only certain windows of the day that I can actually get and then work. That is interest into yet another restriction that you have to deal. Jim this is really remarkable. Work co -- that you're dealing I mean I think the value is incredibly clear. It's just an evening you talked about the rehabilitation for prisoners and I think in everything I've read discussions that I had not once has somebody sent me. If they can just get a regular yoga practice that would make a serious. Serious difference. If you're just joining us on inside Austin I'm speaking with Jim Freeman he is the founder of conviction yet what he does is he goes to Texas prisons and he teaches men who are incarcerated -- Jim what else would you like folks to know about the work you're doing or about conviction Yucca. I am well. I think your own people need to start thinking about. Realization -- to start realizing that these multiple decades sentences. You know for last for nonviolent crimes are huge missed it. You know there's there was a whole series of people in in the eighties and nannies involved in the crack selling crack -- -- you know they had a couple of crack -- on them and basically had to go to prison for fifteen years. -- one gentleman that he was caught selling drugs and he. He's been in there for over twenty years he could come up for April 2046. I mean this is just such a waste of human life. Whether it's kind of like killing and that with a sledgehammer -- clean. That's it sounds like it's relief effort and and it's you know it's Albanian response of we've got to stop the violence or surrounding drug distribution you know and all that makes cents and incest. In taxpayers don't want their children smoking meth Coke and it you know and -- so it makes sense of like stringent. I get that then that then you temper that with -- this repeat sex offender or murder then is Al faster than that again you know there's -- there's an imbalance in the way of our -- there's a lack of strategy. In terms of as. How we're dealing with their prisoners based on the severity of the crime. And I think -- strategies -- great way to look at it because that's what it is we're just we're not really thinking things through. Right. And -- and of course in that environment it's it's tough to do that because I mean it's it's a behemoth of -- of a process that human and system. And all their resources are stretched and a. My gosh they don't have money for rehabilitation that's why they depend on volunteers ever all the rehabilitation efforts. That take place of prisoners to the monitors news. -- It's great that you have added to those volunteer services with conviction and -- if you're interested in getting in touch with -- -- because you wanna make a financial contribution to support the good work that he is doing. Or you may want to get involved as a volunteer. Especially if you are a yoga teacher then go to his website at conviction -- dot com you can get lots more information there. Jim I want to thank you so much for being here and and sharing this work that you're doing here and it's an -- Thank you very much of. So there you are got a few bills and your pocketing a cool assured on. And you -- -- happier with your friends. Here and celebrate him a long week -- road -- the last the few scandalous stories. Notes. Now fast forward. Jumping your car and head home well all you just -- DW -- -- -- you wanna hear what's next. Time in jail and then. Left the trips to court but to 171000. Dollars in fees and fines. 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Come on by you at -- hours and 088 during the week eleven -- on the -- and there's a lot of ships a lot of in the that makes a lot of sense because it's not just or students you know to be lifeguards went back sometimes that's a great way to supplement your income and hats and I'm being outdoors hoping outsource aimed at ending eight or yes in an additional that we -- not -- -- dean aren't aren't this year -- -- off and chances to win I -- I -- and cash prizes to work. Other shipwreck in -- so that's that's anemic comes from the city and yet. -- and do you also rely on resources and support from the community since most of pools and in the vast majority of pre re -- went the vast majority are we only have eight almost that you actually charged in its low of electoral pre -- as far as money from the meaning you know we are also meant by. -- -- by the city OK Aaron about Israeli Katrina. OK so you have a 120 lifeguards now did you say 120 to. Enter into any sick and you're looking to get to 700. Yet prior to June 6 and you really need to hip ankle because you down I'm guessing that means you can't open all the pools and that means we're gonna have to shut down I mean well in people's waiting areas. Hope that we have shut down low around because I mean Austin -- well. Mean Austin Summers and swimming together like going to oh yeah and with all the all the sites we had a in your neighborhood yeah. Are starting wages is seventeen and as and when I now are. As well an -- Just -- -- -- it is a great topic of Punjab and it's -- any job that has you outside. I think also cannot be that swelling -- and -- this normally and and if that if -- So if you if you're feeling inspired and think hey. This is the summer job that I wanna have whether your student. Or with your teacher you got some time off meteor retiree and you're looking for some supplemental -- go to lifeguard Austin dot com. And there's all the information there about applying to become a light -- in the -- -- division of Austin parks and recreation. And really this is this is a call to action this is a cry for help because. Go from a 120 to 700 -- arts 700 needed of -- in sex and Meehan. That's a that's a huge number to me but -- know it's doable. So it's definitely manageable and if you're excited about doing that then go to left guard Austin dot com check it out. Make the application and go in for the interview -- -- necessary which is fantastic air or hundred deep -- opening five. And then tell a friend or to France maybe guys all together in and working as let part of this summer a mile out more than barrier and why not give way to. If they spent time outside doing an important job -- you know you're safe carrying. The health of children and women and men who are enjoying the rules. We -- these -- here in Austin Mike if it's. It's an analyst -- to have it really honestly is and we really need all the coming in their communities. It is also aperture and fifty public pool facilities in -- around cost and you're probably thinking of -- pool that is in your neighborhood right now so it's nice to know that you don't have to govern our you can get training which is only forty dollars. We're a class in the evenings and on the weakened -- as convenient LA got another -- -- kind of need some flexibility there yes and then. How Clinton to take be quite division to get up people's. Take some time we do have the oldest rule. And in the entry with -- -- Only eighteen hundreds wow -- Indian indicated Porsche. And its stake in some time. I guess -- a lot of our rules are older. And we just worked on maintaining an animal out well they do require an awful lot of maintenance from yesterday ushered in. And our own money to -- will not -- rules want it to them they were yeah. Absolutely. So -- -- how many like ours John why America. Total we have 500 and I amount I -- eighty cracked. So because of that change in the opening period that's where we're at it this change -- -- higher that in my life. One year and your saying your opening earlier and staying up the longer it seems like we're opening earlier were staying. Open longer and her hours to change. So we universalist across city there's a standard opening at 8 o'clock. In the morning whereas previously we can't temples of anyone in the afternoon. Someone open at ten in the I mean -- -- -- depending on the area and the need. And City Council decided it would be a lot smarter asked to have all of our open. Seeing how can I say I really appreciate that I used to live near Patterson park. And I never could get when the pool was open yeah I never I. The hours were always and I would show up and I got it wrong -- says that is so great -- the hours are consistently open Indian and all across the city. So if you're looking for a summertime job look no further how about working outside as a lifeguard if you've never been a -- or no big deal. Just go to life guard Austin dot com and you can start the application process and went for the interview. And -- the -- division of Austin parks and recreation will hook you up with a class that's normally. Kind of expensive and I had a 15200 dollars it's at a at a select part that you guys are gonna do worry about it at -- deal that she absolutely cannot be if you've always wanted to be a lifeguard or if -- never thought about before until this moment. Check it out lifeguard Austin dot com. Their. 400 deep -- and their open eight to five to just make an appointment to -- went for the yen the application are no. You don't have McKinney it's not going to go online and we've got a sneak in just coming off this eight I had money writing and will assist you right there. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- At all yeah. -- whatever shirt you've been an interesting year in this you're in the situation also because. Normally at this time a year and we had some real sort of icy -- I guess if -- Colin. So that was pretty usual on our weather center and people generally want to get into the pool when their cold so -- They're linking folks maybe are thinking who wanted to get to well maybe I'll wait that's exactly and it went let's -- we don't wanna wait too long until there -- no more. Until we want and can now and it is now that we're off -- actually made every week class. Every single week in the month of may -- through an -- -- -- -- needed to cherub with some actually is okay and you also have some classes going on now in April we do. -- had class has gone on since November. OK Aaron we just have been -- -- haven't -- folks and so darn old. At the table the weather is pretty Gloria if bright now and it's and -- sense of the past really week almost two week yeah. So I do you think spring has run practical rancher recently announced 71 and the blue bonnet and the Indian Russian news -- just not -- -- that were done under yeah. Even in the cloud girl who read a little bit arraigned next eight still going to be 86 days of -- to dairy cattle right. So if you were thinking gosh I need a summer job. Don't wanna flip burgers and talent on our Packers star Allen cast -- -- want to supplement and when -- student a teacher I retire he. When he just have some extra time on your hand this summer. Any ninety something outside check out life are off and dot com. And go ahead and get the ball rolling you can get certified -- Austin parks and -- creations are nominal you forty dollars and nice way to be outside and may well above minimum wage silently -- Has some incentives with ipads and stuff yeah we're doing several incentive programs burglaries this year -- inner -- water all the tournament. -- but we're not determine. And we got a wooden nickel program where it's seen doing -- about the neon. In trade -- and worse cool eerily only get the wooden nickel program. As a rash action then check in time. A lot of I'm thinking on on the sheer luck and things that we. Want to work and have a good time we're. That is important I mean. I think a lot of the still associate work as a four letter word and that -- it can't be fun. Can't be enjoyable -- absolutely not true. I I think work can be like play I think you can fight if you find the right work for yourself it blurs the lines between work and play. And that's great that's what you want me excited to show up everyday and you keep. I mean we need to swim all summer long. She is so it get it right and it's a vitamin. But the reality is a lot of survived and indeed -- A cousin that they got it can happen where Chinese and outside the better your body can make up some identity -- Keeping -- in more ways than one right. That's awesome if you're just joining us on inside Austin I'm talking with Erica mall -- she's the aquatic supervisor. -- Austin parks and recreation and she's got a call to action for you because they are short. A serious number of life -- -- wanna be able to open all the pools on June 6. And they need more than 500 I've cards to be hired before that time so this is your called action if you're interested that a life are Austin dot com. Today don't waste a moment. If you're not sort of by no problem they will help you answer I'd miss classes are ongoing right now through the end of bank. Now after may are there no more classes Erica we are going to be offering classes is needed to be difficult because it is like thinking IA it's okay so you know early -- -- the warm here absolutely right that's great. Is there any health Erica that you want of sin and about the pools where the Activision custom parts of our nation you know we strive -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- priority. Amber right along there's the customer service and deliver communities or communities over rules and there really is nothing better than were together. And get these -- open and so that everyone's kids Netherlands Italy. -- our nation at three in the hot hot hot summer months and say. We strike or inward or every year we. And successful. And if we just it is these are urging hearing is also in the it would be that. Well -- website is life are -- and dot com if you wanna work as a life guard the summer or you know someone who do who does want to. Tell two friends for sure. And -- -- -- -- economy and get everything rolling bare hands them going for an interview that 400. Eddie and it will certified and not our certified. Authority. Erica thanks so much here saying that you had a really appreciate your time. Thanks for listening to it. Inside Austin. Did you know there's approximately two million veterans throughout the state of Texas. And 40000 in the Austin area alone -- and our newest project strives to support each one of them and their families back conducting their Peter retreats and holiday dinners. 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