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Today's Sunday December 1 and you're listening to -- inside Austin. On today's show I'll be speaking with prince and the tried to Humphries. The founders of healing our heroes project. -- a nonprofit that serves our military community in very different way. They provide recreational therapeutic retreats that are designed to provide support through relaxation and recreational activities and that's for active duty military veterans and their spouses and children. All of a mission to help keep families together. After completing their military service is innocent military families who are struggling after a service member has returned home. Killing our heroes project my chest what they mean. I'll also be talking with Tracy Gibbons -- Dixon and Kerry Collins about the American Lung Association plains and gulf region. And their mission to save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease. Education research and advocacy. And there's a fun opportunity for everyone in the family to get involved in the upcoming. Fight for -- climbed at the roster -- -- That's all coming up on inside Austin. And. They vary -- -- the point. I'm having a stroke he gonna -- my handle it I'm having a stroke. While you do not even moving your arm I'm having a stroke are you okay I'm having a stroke your face looks weird to I'm having a stroke. You had a -- -- something I'm having a stroke when someone is having a stroke they may not be able to say it with words but their body language we'll tell you loud and clear. I'm having a stroke. You just need to know the sudden signs look for fast F eight best team. S face -- any arm weakness or this speech difficulty then T. Time time to call 911. Immediately because the sooner they get to the hospital the sooner they'll get treatment and that can make a remarkable difference in their recovery until the sudden science face armed speech time spot a stroke fast. Visit stroke association -- court. Brought you by the American stroke association and -- it comes. And. And my -- very pleased. It breaks my heart to tell my granddaughter now. But I -- give them books last year because if -- related macular degeneration. Or any MT. It's an eye disease that can lead to blindness and affects lots of baby boomers like me as we get older. I wish I'd known there are ways to help prevent dame team and about the warning signs like blind spot or blurry vision. I regret not seeing my and I doctor sooner because early detection is seeking your site. And -- clinically approved treatment for its advanced form. If you think you may have -- -- the foundation fighting blindness to gain at 1800. Blindness for free packet on preventing and managing and team. Series turn just isn't the same without him green teeny. He just breaks my heart. That number again he's 1800. -- Don't wait -- -- -- doesn't. You know it's time now. I'm cleaning division tank. You can always come up -- an excuse for not visiting the long term care and I -- got a skull and yoga class studs content before. It's even nice. Perfectly understandable since going to long term care dot -- means you actually acknowledged that one day you will be. And dare we say it only. -- -- grows beyond this -- I don't. And 70% of older Americans will need some form of long term care services as they age and if you're fifty plus time to create your strategy for aging. She can stay in charge you know fifty's. The -- there. Storm long term care dot gov makes it easier to figure out where you wanna live who'll care for you and the newest wasting cover the costs and long term care doctor up. Find your own path forward. It is -- and a new gray hair way to. -- Do. -- Joining me right now on inside us and it's prince Humphries and much Rhonda Humphries. The director of operations and executive director of healing our heroes project. Thank you both so much for being here and I am very excited to learn about healing our heroes project and the work they do. Thank you so much I have honestly at the things tell us about healing our heroes project. Well hill my newest project it's a nonprofit organization and their animal life found it. Some years ago with running catch the ball rolling -- than last year and half. And what we like to do we cater specifically to. Military. Families. And the soldiers is will you have a lot of organizations out there at that really cater to the soldier of my own. But what we elected to use actually focus on the whole family unit. Because as you know when he when he soldiers deploys. These owls who stays back home they've become the the core. I -- me -- once the soldier deploys. You know they become the mom that day at the person who handles finances and things like that. And so what we like to do. Exactly support them support the whole family you know once he returned home and so we can be they can be active duty. Soldiers they can be. Veterans of any past war pass conflict and so we just really like decayed -- -- children like you we appreciate what you do. And Regis and we just love won a regional council is all you. The comeback from a combat situation and then try to integrate in daily only -- Must be really hard as they're there it -- very difficult transition. I just coming in coming back home. Mean I've been in a couple of conflicts. Over in the Middle East and the biggest thing for me is just being normal thinking. You know -- anything fabulous but I just want to interact with ma am and want to be a husband he -- and want to be bothered keen interest to normal everyday things. Know the impacts are a lot to please is there appeared -- It's it's it's -- matter how long were you overseas parent. I spent close to three years total active to tour is back to back. In in 2000. -- 2000 by 2007. -- -- have a prolonged time away from your family I'll definitely -- him. And so what -- coming back that was hit when you talk about just -- to feel normal. How tough was that how long it take you to get there. I don't think you'd ever completely. Get past it he's just always so when going process of getting better day by day you know getting treatment. Doing counseling doing group sessions and things like that. And have been a strong support system. Just. Throughout the whole process so it is always gradually gets better I don't think when my opinion. I don't think a person can ever be completely heal a -- PT SD ranked -- my. Such an ironic situation -- You know the family is at home waiting for you come on you come home. Of course surveys excited to be reunited felt like I can imagine the intense joy that must be and what follows then. Isn't that happy ever after that you think Keller brings home safe and sound. But instead it's work of a different kind totally totally when he came back his First Solar. We had at that time maybe -- such endless and maybe ten in six or something like -- until course they remembered day so it was learned toilets a sixteen month seeing me he whose parent. I can I had that. Conflict -- it really wasn't day -- you know this is not the same -- Atlanta you know now he doesn't wanna be apart of mass where activities now he didn't wanna go to apart. Didn't wanna go sack me he doesn't wanna go to the movies -- -- -- do anything -- sit in the house so how do you explain that to children. Net okay yes this stat but that is different and when he was a full hour. So then the whole family has to go to the process of counseling. Because now we need to fix the family as a home and right in the middle of China speaks to family as a whole oh he gives lawyers again. And now he's. And new training 36 months later and then in the year he's got another year and a -- So and that's exactly what happened with as prince was time three years two and a half years old where in Afghanistan and Iraq. Until the second time they came back and Afghanistan. Wholly different -- Totally different feeling. So hard to diet -- and that's why I started my research in psychology. Because I need to figure out how could add -- Helped him -- at best serve camp how can I keep my children. Has this plane and it started just with taken -- at class at the community college and I went on and then went on to your. I just received my master's degree in me and and cast in psychology and so that's what I do and there's no better I sat still backing use my knowledge my experience in my education and -- what I know bands which is military family. So your precious China away. You saw the need and you and you just went for it yeah we have to work on that's all together and -- -- different today than it was worth three years ago the whole family is if not just him yeah everyone in the family unit it's totally different yeah. That -- form and he said that I'm guessing with the inspiration for healing our heroes project yes born out of your work when did it get it county like in a flash we work and I noodling it over for -- -- -- And what I know wanted to do counseling and that act -- -- Didn't reach as many people as Alan -- -- doing counseling is in itself since then SI research organization seeing what other organizations where it's only for a family. And there's only one organization which is tragic sanctuary and -- around that I came across it actually. What holes here PD retreats my system keeps. And so are researching researching name we actually signed. Or -- a deer and trees and we actually sort last year. To their facility. And it was amazing. It was amazing -- surprised at the -- -- and so it's an ongoing thing with him just trying to -- a chance with the mainly you know he -- counseling we went to counseling as a alienate. And some progress made and that as much as we would have liked to see so after a week and went to retreat in Colorado. It was amazing for her. Because it's like -- -- to -- in nature I mean he was out in the opium which is nothing but trees. And it wasn't so much he had to watch his back like he was usually to do you know we both -- around the books and movies he has to sit in the same spot where he can see everything while we're out there he really wasn't paying attention to. He was an -- when nature you did horseback riding I mean it was colored the second negative twelve degrees. -- now I'm saying this I. He enjoyed it you know him the -- they won't -- -- back -- my parents. Of -- you can really relax it sounds like in that environment. Yea it was it was a situation to where we were secluded from everyday society and being named the camaraderie amongst other soldiers of course that was one of the positive things about being in the military. And so you there with other people who deal with some of the same symptoms and attributes of coming back from a combat. And so I feel comfortable. A feel comfortable and it was healing from me because it was in a non clinical setting you know no one likes to be especially my position. We don't like to be classified as a patient and this being sick or what have you. -- -- that they loved him so much and we had there was counselors the year there will social workers the year. There therapeutic recreation specialists -- year. That when patents mocks him in doctor smarts anything like that they would just communicating with this. Eleven us you know of course someone couldn't relate specifically to what. We've been through but it was Steelers don't support lightly sweet low which you and I couldn't do -- do you do which you've done and thank you so much state fed us. You know they cooked our flew by hand you know wasn't -- and that. It just -- so much. It was really good and my whole family was there I am and it just showed appreciation and has really put us on on a pedestal. And it was like I've gained it was like a five day when I retreat in it was yes it was actually had this experience. Since I've been military and we slept. It sounds so unique and what you're saying about you know somebody you know make in human meal from scratch I mean. And being outside being outdoors. There's something about it makes us all feel better you know that the connection with nature and the Chinese have like he saw the difference immediately he has different trends. And because there is no cellphones there -- -- computers they are no TVs. So everything and we do we have to do list of Ian Ian. And you know we -- do things maybe you know a couple of hours to beat you at home but we're talking six days. You know where we have to do everything together -- -- -- I mean my -- just enjoy playing monopoly with him clean check I mean that was so relaxes -- This is keenly you know they are now. And it was so much for. Dead bat an accompanying Colorado's a but it was really that I had -- right idea to did you come back from that experience thinking. I need to create -- actually here in central Texas absolutely no idea and we connect -- with Heather easily which is the executive director Antarctic sanctuary and she has in its court has only. Out all the support she's given that is right yeah and so she's encouraged says she's helped that's -- the way tennis where we need to do what not to do. What. Direction going and -- Thanks to approach what not so it's it's been great and in the past year which it hasn't even been a year because we started in -- paper over it. You know Brady -- December 22 and so hasn't even been a four year and the progress we've made it to me so you had a -- retreats this past year and we had a -- -- here insist and then dinner and we just want the community to be aware of who we ER right. And I first street is actually in March attacked our first issue would be in my aren't. And our potential site will be in China the Texas which is three hours away. So either a four iron and soldiers that are close -- can't main -- or. -- before -- it like they're still giving away from the every day Livni right because it's a three hour. You know track Bryant so is that in the CD. And then disconnecting from Mikey says the -- PDAs cell phones and all that making sure that you can kind of be present in the moment right there yeah and that until about how to take place so are you. So -- is the name of the project if you're just now joining us from inside Austin is healing our heroes project the web site. Is -- HOH project or kind of OK so that's -- get more information -- If somebody wants to attend this retreat in March is they're so ram to it to get and that retreat as a full yet. It's not falling ad because we can't on the web -- we have our days where the retreats and so. And there's also where you can China. You know there's application in the -- -- -- the date that she preferred content as a number of retreat to area you're number -- trees and we have six plant and they cheer packet that mr. -- sincerely pray. So you can look at the website and HRH project dot org and see which retreat -- Which retreat date might -- past and then got an application and go from there -- swing OK and that's exciting. This this idea of Gingrich treats I think is so and so healing just like the name says because you are talking about the whole family. You wanna keep the whole family together. And that's as I understand -- one of the problems when you come back and you're trying to move forward together. If you can't do it it just breaks that the entire family unit dance and one loss because. -- next year the member. That the service member in your family whether it was on now the husband of the wife the mother the father has opulence and -- So important for this country and then to come back -- have to sacrifice. The family unit for that it seems to me wrong and so many ways. Yes yes and you know say it's 9/11. Is actually being two point nine million soldiers that have a totally. It's are you thinking about all of these people they seem so much. How I process and it's how are they deal with that spat at the same when they come to our tree and it sounds -- NB a 100% -- because they won't. But it's it's and starred in the past as well I didn't healing started you know you know just for them -- in their -- may mean waste they haven't -- years. -- -- in the press -- of Italy skiing and then sold to Al sat. Best days of depression that he may he or she may be going through. You know it's estimated -- -- 100000 of those soldiers had ET EST. Did they know it now at some moment I have no idea. That -- came if this depression when Michael went through then the nightmares what is it. But sometimes they're not comfortable enough to go and sit you know I talked to someone like prince sick eating wanna BC he just wanted to be normal or are you happy he's almost a million people. Has PT SD. How -- touching them. And everyone who loves those people exactly EST I mean do you think about those numbers it's almost overwhelming it is an it is so hard. I mean. I've experienced. Like everybody else mild depression -- you know up and sad at times and getting up off the couch to go to the fridge seems like a big deal so I don't know how you begin to move forward. Piece by piece when you come back from being in a combat situation when you've been away from your family you know and it is about healing overtime right return because there's no magical cure. No quick fix but. Working at it over time. To get to where you are in the moment and you can you -- and let your loved ones right thanks for its current and that's that's this time. Well carpet you know of doing what we do just to let them know that paint pins some more here -- -- You know -- And excuse me we don't have all the answers but we have a ton of resources. You know if we don't happy if we can help you directly and we kind of pitching in the hands of someone that can help you know is this that say that. Every in every hour. -- sold to commit suicide I'm. -- thinking and a date yes when he four. I heroes. That has protected this great country for that -- like I can't do this anymore I'm just -- into. That's just so amazing to me because. You're you're sitting on the side of the fence hoping and praying may return from harm's way. And then they. It shouldn't happen it's just. It's just absolutely wrong. So thank goodness that you're here with healing our heroes project I mean this is extremely important work. Born out of your own situation so you can relate to every person. That they -- into contact with infants hey we're struggling we -- know what to do and I'm feeling really lost and it's tough on the kids and am I -- all been beaten. And that's why we used the technique of diversion air. I'm here in this time but wait a minute -- on this with my family you know. And that's touching yeah and -- -- way. Out and it must be so. I just think it's so hard on the soldier coming back trance because. You know your year in a situation where you gotta be tariffs he got a handle things and then you come home and where she still feel like that you know I got it got naked together and Hamels stuff and so opening up and communicating your vulnerabilities. Must be you know -- feel almost impossible to do. Here when you soldiers you when you monks who ranks this. There is a bit of his control factor. You know when this discipline and control factor. Being in part of the tang you know all of the soon what have you. And then you come back home you transition. To me uncontrollable. Environment. In which. There's so many variables are so many things coming -- team. You know noncombat related but -- just a readjustment process that's his beard -- difficult. -- form meaning meaning people not coming back. Even if you even if you have situations to where you have soldiers that may mean not specifically. Handle the weapon over there but just effected in -- now environment. Even coming back home to the states. -- steal a transition process is to re integration process. And needs to be healing process. And so that can be very very difficult and -- -- is sometimes hard to identify. You know in nineteen you do deal with depressive moment Tino how door handle. -- door handle things maybe in the deals that Tino had door handle discipline my Keats. But Q without going over port you know. This is very very difficult. Is -- very difficult and there are. You know. You know when you know military -- you know -- -- at soldier. EU QQ borders and take what is in newspapers city. We come back home. It's not you know is not be very specific because you just do we get from person dies when at its transition is -- weird if that the military counterpoint you in the right direction to help greener greater with -- not really. Much support there. Well actually the military and VA has been has named Mary it to me me you know literally help in helped us out even before we come back home is like a debriefing process. You know trying to beat you mean agreed to let them. I wish it was even a way where this is actually best tool to actually -- to go made in India efforts right now. To help that process you know as a matter of fact. Missile bombing dark by -- done in these -- and actually bring awareness to support this leave for family members. And other soldiers you know they have a program called joining forces to actually launch in 2011. And the program it actually incurs a society to give him much you support to our military families. So they actually -- being a floor runner in actually helping. You know organizations like this to help in that transition process claim is just you just have a lot of soldiers we talk about going back to Vietnam War Korean War. He -- government can only do so much and actually could mean their efforts litigate they can only do so much. So what they doing turn is help organizations like ask and encourage organizations. Like us to push. I division of humor it was project. And so that's one reason why we -- to China and Kurds even in civilian people people who just have a low when. Local military into more patriotic. To help when a process. And how can folks involved and help a team that can create a way. Actually what they can do they can go to our web site and they can actually sign up to be volunteers. Who now. All of our retreats that we have set up to military gators are we doing you don't have to be a soldier. To help -- and I it was project he is going -- -- was called and go to H a witch project at war. And sign up to be volunteered. And he will talk and we -- you -- out there you can definitely get Leo 1%. Let's get to know that because there's opportunities for volunteers to help but I think that's that would inspire a lot of people who feel indebted to our military. And are looking for a way to get back in May be they can't militarily. On -- of course you can imagine you're always looking for funds. Absolutely so -- can also make a donation at HOH project out of work right directly currents and -- not correct. So Winamp when a family ensures that the healing our heroes project and get involved what's the process. Well what we have we have a plan and we have a strategy and we like to customize team. Kind of what the weather is going on and indeed the whatever happens far as to whether. And that teams we have lined up so. Within this forty retreat. We have to do we have a couple of financial. Sessions. We have a couple of O'Meara tools sessions. And then of course we have activities in the keys when they come. It won't be a situation to with the children ages being babies act as a snack here peek at all. They actually have activities to where experience is required to interact with the family and well things we have all class -- that are. In the -- in. You know in the family activities and -- happy. So we actually do have a deep and plan you know comprised of those are things that we would have the -- the -- Pete would have acupuncture. We have again council was short counseling session it won't be in the hard. Deep counts we won't be like that because again. We don't want to soldiers to film -- why aren't there. A while the idea did not 100% required to participate. But he gained just me secluded and being amongst other soldiers that -- -- itself. Sure that you're just meeting them wherever they're at and meeting them at their level and when you feel comfortable. Go ahead. And if you don't feel comfortable you know Sharon's right and you know pressure because you lord knows have been under enough pressure he's grown hometown and that counts though. So important. OK and I know you'll have a fund raising event coming up this is the first annual Christmas in the barn is sorry that's correct. And that's taking place Thursday December 12 that's at the green red barn at heritage park include her though I'm not familiar with that. EA is it we'd like to -- communities can close and it. It's is kind of funny because of the last year we we hadn't been there was an event there Christians -- -- -- it was is so -- we -- elect a right. And Santa Claus he was out there. And it's it's just that is a big read green bar. My name is caddie and me it's it's outdoors Z. That the you know of course in May be a little chilly. But we we anticipate and haven't made the small choir singing some Christmas carols will I have. But they have food out here when analog designers like Indy. And we actually toy trapped between now Venus wail because. On that night and give kiss to all of our young ones also on yet so you would get -- welcome to. Even donate or bring toys we gonna wrap Marleau and given to the key. Guys know who no requirement on them and they show up and was let us know you coming. Half so we can make sure that we comedy -- will be really exciting time. We just gonna feed him. Stuff from real good no -- and have a mixture of things. We were thinking not to go the traditional Christmas in around so we may have. -- key mode also may have enchiladas and tacos you just never know I have. Also Today's Sunday December 1 and you're listening to -- inside Austin. On today's show I'll be speaking with prince and the tried to Humphries. The founders of healing our heroes project. -- a nonprofit that serves our military community in very different way. They provide recreational therapeutic retreats that are designed to provide support through relaxation and recreational activities and that's for active duty military veterans and their spouses and children. All of a mission to help keep families together. After completing their military service is innocent military families who are struggling after a service member has returned home. Killing our heroes project my chest what they mean. I'll also be talking with Tracy Gibbons -- Dixon and Kerry Collins about the American Lung Association plains and gulf region. And their mission to save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease. Education research and advocacy. And there's a fun opportunity for everyone in the family to get involved in the upcoming. Fight for -- climbed at the roster -- -- That's all coming up on inside Austin. And. They vary -- -- the point. I'm having a stroke he gonna -- my handle it I'm having a stroke. While you do not even moving your arm I'm having a stroke are you okay I'm having a stroke your face looks weird to I'm having a stroke. You had a -- -- something I'm having a stroke when someone is having a stroke they may not be able to say it with words but their body language we'll tell you loud and clear. I'm having a stroke. You just need to know the sudden signs look for fast F eight best team. S face -- any arm weakness or this speech difficulty then T. Time time to call 911. Immediately because the sooner they get to the hospital the sooner they'll get treatment and that can make a remarkable difference in their recovery until the sudden science face armed speech time spot a stroke fast. Visit stroke association -- court. Brought you by the American stroke association and -- it comes. And. And my -- very pleased. It breaks my heart to tell my granddaughter now. But I -- give them books last year because if -- related macular degeneration. Or any MT. It's an eye disease that can lead to blindness and affects lots of baby boomers like me as we get older. I wish I'd known there are ways to help prevent dame team and about the warning signs like blind spot or blurry vision. I regret not seeing my and I doctor sooner because early detection is seeking your site. And -- clinically approved treatment for its advanced form. If you think you may have -- -- the foundation fighting blindness to gain at 1800. Blindness for free packet on preventing and managing and team. Series turn just isn't the same without him green teeny. He just breaks my heart. That number again he's 1800. -- Don't wait -- -- -- doesn't. You know it's time now. I'm cleaning division tank. You can always come up -- an excuse for not visiting the long term care and I -- got a skull and yoga class studs content before. It's even nice. Perfectly understandable since going to long term care dot -- means you actually acknowledged that one day you will be. And dare we say it only. -- -- grows beyond this -- I don't. And 70% of older Americans will need some form of long term care services as they age and if you're fifty plus time to create your strategy for aging. She can stay in charge you know fifty's. The -- there. Storm long term care dot gov makes it easier to figure out where you wanna live who'll care for you and the newest wasting cover the costs and long term care doctor up. Find your own path forward. It is -- and a new gray hair way to. -- Do. -- Joining me right now on inside us and it's prince Humphries and much Rhonda Humphries. The director of operations and executive director of healing our heroes project. Thank you both so much for being here and I am very excited to learn about healing our heroes project and the work they do. Thank you so much I have honestly at the things tell us about healing our heroes project. Well hill my newest project it's a nonprofit organization and their animal life found it. Some years ago with running catch the ball rolling -- than last year and half. And what we like to do we cater specifically to. Military. Families. And the soldiers is will you have a lot of organizations out there at that really cater to the soldier of my own. But what we elected to use actually focus on the whole family unit. Because as you know when he when he soldiers deploys. These owls who stays back home they've become the the core. I -- me -- once the soldier deploys. You know they become the mom that day at the person who handles finances and things like that. And so what we like to do. Exactly support them support the whole family you know once he returned home and so we can be they can be active duty. Soldiers they can be. Veterans of any past war pass conflict and so we just really like decayed -- -- children like you we appreciate what you do. And Regis and we just love won a regional council is all you. The comeback from a combat situation and then try to integrate in daily only -- Must be really hard as they're there it -- very difficult transition. I just coming in coming back home. Mean I've been in a couple of conflicts. Over in the Middle East and the biggest thing for me is just being normal thinking. You know -- anything fabulous but I just want to interact with ma am and want to be a husband he -- and want to be bothered keen interest to normal everyday things. Know the impacts are a lot to please is there appeared -- It's it's it's -- matter how long were you overseas parent. I spent close to three years total active to tour is back to back. In in 2000. -- 2000 by 2007. -- -- have a prolonged time away from your family I'll definitely -- him. And so what -- coming back that was hit when you talk about just -- to feel normal. How tough was that how long it take you to get there. I don't think you'd ever completely. Get past it he's just always so when going process of getting better day by day you know getting treatment. Doing counseling doing group sessions and things like that. And have been a strong support system. Just. Throughout the whole process so it is always gradually gets better I don't think when my opinion. I don't think a person can ever be completely heal a -- PT SD ranked -- my. Such an ironic situation -- You know the family is at home waiting for you come on you come home. Of course surveys excited to be reunited felt like I can imagine the intense joy that must be and what follows then. Isn't that happy ever after that you think Keller brings home safe and sound. But instead it's work of a different kind totally totally when he came back his First Solar. We had at that time maybe -- such endless and maybe ten in six or something like -- until course they remembered day so it was learned toilets a sixteen month seeing me he whose parent. I can I had that. Conflict -- it really wasn't day -- you know this is not the same -- Atlanta you know now he doesn't wanna be apart of mass where activities now he didn't wanna go to apart. Didn't wanna go sack me he doesn't wanna go to the movies -- -- -- do anything -- sit in the house so how do you explain that to children. Net okay yes this stat but that is different and when he was a full hour. So then the whole family has to go to the process of counseling. Because now we need to fix the family as a home and right in the middle of China speaks to family as a whole oh he gives lawyers again. And now he's. And new training 36 months later and then in the year he's got another year and a -- So and that's exactly what happened with as prince was time three years two and a half years old where in Afghanistan and Iraq. Until the second time they came back and Afghanistan. Wholly different -- Totally different feeling. So hard to diet -- and that's why I started my research in psychology. Because I need to figure out how could add -- Helped him -- at best serve camp how can I keep my children. Has this plane and it started just with taken -- at class at the community college and I went on and then went on to your. I just received my master's degree in me and and cast in psychology and so that's what I do and there's no better I sat still backing use my knowledge my experience in my education and -- what I know bands which is military family. So your precious China away. You saw the need and you and you just went for it yeah we have to work on that's all together and -- -- different today than it was worth three years ago the whole family is if not just him yeah everyone in the family unit it's totally different yeah. That -- form and he said that I'm guessing with the inspiration for healing our heroes project yes born out of your work when did it get it county like in a flash we work and I noodling it over for -- -- -- And what I know wanted to do counseling and that act -- -- Didn't reach as many people as Alan -- -- doing counseling is in itself since then SI research organization seeing what other organizations where it's only for a family. And there's only one organization which is tragic sanctuary and -- around that I came across it actually. What holes here PD retreats my system keeps. And so are researching researching name we actually signed. Or -- a deer and trees and we actually sort last year. To their facility. And it was amazing. It was amazing -- surprised at the -- -- and so it's an ongoing thing with him just trying to -- a chance with the mainly you know he -- counseling we went to counseling as a alienate. And some progress made and that as much as we would have liked to see so after a week and went to retreat in Colorado. It was amazing for her. Because it's like -- -- to -- in nature I mean he was out in the opium which is nothing but trees. And it wasn't so much he had to watch his back like he was usually to do you know we both -- around the books and movies he has to sit in the same spot where he can see everything while we're out there he really wasn't paying attention to. He was an -- when nature you did horseback riding I mean it was colored the second negative twelve degrees. -- now I'm saying this I. He enjoyed it you know him the -- they won't -- -- back -- my parents. Of -- you can really relax it sounds like in that environment. Yea it was it was a situation to where we were secluded from everyday society and being named the camaraderie amongst other soldiers of course that was one of the positive things about being in the military. And so you there with other people who deal with some of the same symptoms and attributes of coming back from a combat. And so I feel comfortable. A feel comfortable and it was healing from me because it was in a non clinical setting you know no one likes to be especially my position. We don't like to be classified as a patient and this being sick or what have you. -- -- that they loved him so much and we had there was counselors the year there will social workers the year. There therapeutic recreation specialists -- year. That when patents mocks him in doctor smarts anything like that they would just communicating with this. Eleven us you know of course someone couldn't relate specifically to what. We've been through but it was Steelers don't support lightly sweet low which you and I couldn't do -- do you do which you've done and thank you so much state fed us. You know they cooked our flew by hand you know wasn't -- and that. It just -- so much. It was really good and my whole family was there I am and it just showed appreciation and has really put us on on a pedestal. And it was like I've gained it was like a five day when I retreat in it was yes it was actually had this experience. Since I've been military and we slept. It sounds so unique and what you're saying about you know somebody you know make in human meal from scratch I mean. And being outside being outdoors. There's something about it makes us all feel better you know that the connection with nature and the Chinese have like he saw the difference immediately he has different trends. And because there is no cellphones there -- -- computers they are no TVs. So everything and we do we have to do list of Ian Ian. And you know we -- do things maybe you know a couple of hours to beat you at home but we're talking six days. You know where we have to do everything together -- -- -- I mean my -- just enjoy playing monopoly with him clean check I mean that was so relaxes -- This is keenly you know they are now. And it was so much for. Dead bat an accompanying Colorado's a but it was really that I had -- right idea to did you come back from that experience thinking. I need to create -- actually here in central Texas absolutely no idea and we connect -- with Heather easily which is the executive director Antarctic sanctuary and she has in its court has only. Out all the support she's given that is right yeah and so she's encouraged says she's helped that's -- the way tennis where we need to do what not to do. What. Direction going and -- Thanks to approach what not so it's it's been great and in the past year which it hasn't even been a year because we started in -- paper over it. You know Brady -- December 22 and so hasn't even been a four year and the progress we've made it to me so you had a -- retreats this past year and we had a -- -- here insist and then dinner and we just want the community to be aware of who we ER right. And I first street is actually in March attacked our first issue would be in my aren't. And our potential site will be in China the Texas which is three hours away. So either a four iron and soldiers that are close -- can't main -- or. -- before -- it like they're still giving away from the every day Livni right because it's a three hour. You know track Bryant so is that in the CD. And then disconnecting from Mikey says the -- PDAs cell phones and all that making sure that you can kind of be present in the moment right there yeah and that until about how to take place so are you. So -- is the name of the project if you're just now joining us from inside Austin is healing our heroes project the web site. Is -- HOH project or kind of OK so that's -- get more information -- If somebody wants to attend this retreat in March is they're so ram to it to get and that retreat as a full yet. It's not falling ad because we can't on the web -- we have our days where the retreats and so. And there's also where you can China. You know there's application in the -- -- -- the date that she preferred content as a number of retreat to area you're number -- trees and we have six plant and they cheer packet that mr. -- sincerely pray. So you can look at the website and HRH project dot org and see which retreat -- Which retreat date might -- past and then got an application and go from there -- swing OK and that's exciting. This this idea of Gingrich treats I think is so and so healing just like the name says because you are talking about the whole family. You wanna keep the whole family together. And that's as I understand -- one of the problems when you come back and you're trying to move forward together. If you can't do it it just breaks that the entire family unit dance and one loss because. -- next year the member. That the service member in your family whether it was on now the husband of the wife the mother the father has opulence and -- So important for this country and then to come back -- have to sacrifice. The family unit for that it seems to me wrong and so many ways. Yes yes and you know say it's 9/11. Is actually being two point nine million soldiers that have a totally. It's are you thinking about all of these people they seem so much. How I process and it's how are they deal with that spat at the same when they come to our tree and it sounds -- NB a 100% -- because they won't. But it's it's and starred in the past as well I didn't healing started you know you know just for them -- in their -- may mean waste they haven't -- years. -- -- in the press -- of Italy skiing and then sold to Al sat. Best days of depression that he may he or she may be going through. You know it's estimated -- -- 100000 of those soldiers had ET EST. Did they know it now at some moment I have no idea. That -- came if this depression when Michael went through then the nightmares what is it. But sometimes they're not comfortable enough to go and sit you know I talked to someone like prince sick eating wanna BC he just wanted to be normal or are you happy he's almost a million people. Has PT SD. How -- touching them. And everyone who loves those people exactly EST I mean do you think about those numbers it's almost overwhelming it is an it is so hard. I mean. I've experienced. Like everybody else mild depression -- you know up and sad at times and getting up off the couch to go to the fridge seems like a big deal so I don't know how you begin to move forward. Piece by piece when you come back from being in a combat situation when you've been away from your family you know and it is about healing overtime right return because there's no magical cure. No quick fix but. Working at it over time. To get to where you are in the moment and you can you -- and let your loved ones right thanks for its current and that's that's this time. Well carpet you know of doing what we do just to let them know that paint pins some more here -- -- You know -- And excuse me we don't have all the answers but we have a ton of resources. You know if we don't happy if we can help you directly and we kind of pitching in the hands of someone that can help you know is this that say that. Every in every hour. -- sold to commit suicide I'm. -- thinking and a date yes when he four. I heroes. That has protected this great country for that -- like I can't do this anymore I'm just -- into. That's just so amazing to me because. You're you're sitting on the side of the fence hoping and praying may return from harm's way. And then they. It shouldn't happen it's just. It's just absolutely wrong. So thank goodness that you're here with healing our heroes project I mean this is extremely important work. Born out of your own situation so you can relate to every person. That they -- into contact with infants hey we're struggling we -- know what to do and I'm feeling really lost and it's tough on the kids and am I -- all been beaten. And that's why we used the technique of diversion air. I'm here in this time but wait a minute -- on this with my family you know. And that's touching yeah and -- -- way. Out and it must be so. I just think it's so hard on the soldier coming back trance because. You know your year in a situation where you gotta be tariffs he got a handle things and then you come home and where she still feel like that you know I got it got naked together and Hamels stuff and so opening up and communicating your vulnerabilities. Must be you know -- feel almost impossible to do. Here when you soldiers you when you monks who ranks this. There is a bit of his control factor. You know when this discipline and control factor. Being in part of the tang you know all of the soon what have you. And then you come back home you transition. To me uncontrollable. Environment. In which. There's so many variables are so many things coming -- team. You know noncombat related but -- just a readjustment process that's his beard -- difficult. -- form meaning meaning people not coming back. Even if you even if you have situations to where you have soldiers that may mean not specifically. Handle the weapon over there but just effected in -- now environment. Even coming back home to the states. -- steal a transition process is to re integration process. And needs to be healing process. And so that can be very very difficult and -- -- is sometimes hard to identify. You know in nineteen you do deal with depressive moment Tino how door handle. -- door handle things maybe in the deals that Tino had door handle discipline my Keats. But Q without going over port you know. This is very very difficult. Is -- very difficult and there are. You know. You know when you know military -- you know -- -- at soldier. EU QQ borders and take what is in newspapers city. We come back home. It's not you know is not be very specific because you just do we get from person dies when at its transition is -- weird if that the military counterpoint you in the right direction to help greener greater with -- not really. Much support there. Well actually the military and VA has been has named Mary it to me me you know literally help in helped us out even before we come back home is like a debriefing process. You know trying to beat you mean agreed to let them. I wish it was even a way where this is actually best tool to actually -- to go made in India efforts right now. To help that process you know as a matter of fact. Missile bombing dark by -- done in these -- and actually bring awareness to support this leave for family members. And other soldiers you know they have a program called joining forces to actually launch in 2011. And the program it actually incurs a society to give him much you support to our military families. So they actually -- being a floor runner in actually helping. You know organizations like this to help in that transition process claim is just you just have a lot of soldiers we talk about going back to Vietnam War Korean War. He -- government can only do so much and actually could mean their efforts litigate they can only do so much. So what they doing turn is help organizations like ask and encourage organizations. Like us to push. I division of humor it was project. And so that's one reason why we -- to China and Kurds even in civilian people people who just have a low when. Local military into more patriotic. To help when a process. And how can folks involved and help a team that can create a way. Actually what they can do they can go to our web site and they can actually sign up to be volunteers. Who now. All of our retreats that we have set up to military gators are we doing you don't have to be a soldier. To help -- and I it was project he is going -- -- was called and go to H a witch project at war. And sign up to be volunteered. And he will talk and we -- you -- out there you can definitely get Leo 1%. Let's get to know that because there's opportunities for volunteers to help but I think that's that would inspire a lot of people who feel indebted to our military. And are looking for a way to get back in May be they can't militarily. On -- of course you can imagine you're always looking for funds. Absolutely so -- can also make a donation at HOH project out of work right directly currents and -- not correct. So Winamp when a family ensures that the healing our heroes project and get involved what's the process. Well what we have we have a plan and we have a strategy and we like to customize team. Kind of what the weather is going on and indeed the whatever happens far as to whether. And that teams we have lined up so. Within this forty retreat. We have to do we have a couple of financial. Sessions. We have a couple of O'Meara tools sessions. And then of course we have activities in the keys when they come. It won't be a situation to with the children ages being babies act as a snack here peek at all. They actually have activities to where experience is required to interact with the family and well things we have all class -- that are. In the -- in. You know in the family activities and -- happy. So we actually do have a deep and plan you know comprised of those are things that we would have the -- the -- Pete would have acupuncture. We have again council was short counseling session it won't be in the hard. Deep counts we won't be like that because again. We don't want to soldiers to film -- why aren't there. A while the idea did not 100% required to participate. But he gained just me secluded and being amongst other soldiers that -- -- itself. Sure that you're just meeting them wherever they're at and meeting them at their level and when you feel comfortable. Go ahead. And if you don't feel comfortable you know Sharon's right and you know pressure because you lord knows have been under enough pressure he's grown hometown and that counts though. So important. OK and I know you'll have a fund raising event coming up this is the first annual Christmas in the barn is sorry that's correct. And that's taking place Thursday December 12 that's at the green red barn at heritage park include her though I'm not familiar with that. EA is it we'd like to -- communities can close and it. It's is kind of funny because of the last year we we hadn't been there was an event there Christians -- -- -- it was is so -- we -- elect a right. And Santa Claus he was out there. And it's it's just that is a big read green bar. My name is caddie and me it's it's outdoors Z. That the you know of course in May be a little chilly. But we we anticipate and haven't made the small choir singing some Christmas carols will I have. But they have food out here when analog designers like Indy. And we actually toy trapped between now Venus wail because. On that night and give kiss to all of our young ones also on yet so you would get -- welcome to. Even donate or bring toys we gonna wrap Marleau and given to the key. Guys know who no requirement on them and they show up and was let us know you coming. Half so we can make sure that we comedy -- will be really exciting time. We just gonna feed him. Stuff from real good no -- and have a mixture of things. We were thinking not to go the traditional Christmas in around so we may have. -- key mode also may have enchiladas and tacos you just never know I have. Also Today's Sunday December 1 and you're listening to -- inside Austin. On today's show I'll be speaking with prince and the tried to Humphries. The founders of healing our heroes project. -- a nonprofit that serves our military community in very different way. They provide recreational therapeutic retreats that are designed to provide support through relaxation and recreational activities and that's for active duty military veterans and their spouses and children. All of a mission to help keep families together. After completing their military service is innocent military families who are struggling after a service member has returned home. Killing our heroes project my chest what they mean. I'll also be talking with Tracy Gibbons -- Dixon and Kerry Collins about the American Lung Association plains and gulf region. And their mission to save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease. Education research and advocacy. And there's a fun opportunity for everyone in the family to get involved in the upcoming. Fight for -- climbed at the roster -- -- That's all coming up on inside Austin. And. They vary -- -- the point. I'm having a stroke he gonna -- my handle it I'm having a stroke. 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Some years ago with running catch the ball rolling -- than last year and half. And what we like to do we cater specifically to. Military. Families. And the soldiers is will you have a lot of organizations out there at that really cater to the soldier of my own. But what we elected to use actually focus on the whole family unit. Because as you know when he when he soldiers deploys. These owls who stays back home they've become the the core. I -- me -- once the soldier deploys. You know they become the mom that day at the person who handles finances and things like that. And so what we like to do. Exactly support them support the whole family you know once he returned home and so we can be they can be active duty. Soldiers they can be. Veterans of any past war pass conflict and so we just really like decayed -- -- children like you we appreciate what you do. And Regis and we just love won a regional council is all you. The comeback from a combat situation and then try to integrate in daily only -- Must be really hard as they're there it -- very difficult transition. I just coming in coming back home. Mean I've been in a couple of conflicts. Over in the Middle East and the biggest thing for me is just being normal thinking. You know -- anything fabulous but I just want to interact with ma am and want to be a husband he -- and want to be bothered keen interest to normal everyday things. Know the impacts are a lot to please is there appeared -- It's it's it's -- matter how long were you overseas parent. I spent close to three years total active to tour is back to back. In in 2000. -- 2000 by 2007. -- -- have a prolonged time away from your family I'll definitely -- him. And so what -- coming back that was hit when you talk about just -- to feel normal. How tough was that how long it take you to get there. I don't think you'd ever completely. Get past it he's just always so when going process of getting better day by day you know getting treatment. Doing counseling doing group sessions and things like that. And have been a strong support system. Just. Throughout the whole process so it is always gradually gets better I don't think when my opinion. I don't think a person can ever be completely heal a -- PT SD ranked -- my. Such an ironic situation -- You know the family is at home waiting for you come on you come home. Of course surveys excited to be reunited felt like I can imagine the intense joy that must be and what follows then. Isn't that happy ever after that you think Keller brings home safe and sound. But instead it's work of a different kind totally totally when he came back his First Solar. We had at that time maybe -- such endless and maybe ten in six or something like -- until course they remembered day so it was learned toilets a sixteen month seeing me he whose parent. I can I had that. Conflict -- it really wasn't day -- you know this is not the same -- Atlanta you know now he doesn't wanna be apart of mass where activities now he didn't wanna go to apart. Didn't wanna go sack me he doesn't wanna go to the movies -- -- -- do anything -- sit in the house so how do you explain that to children. Net okay yes this stat but that is different and when he was a full hour. So then the whole family has to go to the process of counseling. Because now we need to fix the family as a home and right in the middle of China speaks to family as a whole oh he gives lawyers again. And now he's. And new training 36 months later and then in the year he's got another year and a -- So and that's exactly what happened with as prince was time three years two and a half years old where in Afghanistan and Iraq. Until the second time they came back and Afghanistan. Wholly different -- Totally different feeling. So hard to diet -- and that's why I started my research in psychology. Because I need to figure out how could add -- Helped him -- at best serve camp how can I keep my children. Has this plane and it started just with taken -- at class at the community college and I went on and then went on to your. I just received my master's degree in me and and cast in psychology and so that's what I do and there's no better I sat still backing use my knowledge my experience in my education and -- what I know bands which is military family. So your precious China away. You saw the need and you and you just went for it yeah we have to work on that's all together and -- -- different today than it was worth three years ago the whole family is if not just him yeah everyone in the family unit it's totally different yeah. That -- form and he said that I'm guessing with the inspiration for healing our heroes project yes born out of your work when did it get it county like in a flash we work and I noodling it over for -- -- -- And what I know wanted to do counseling and that act -- -- Didn't reach as many people as Alan -- -- doing counseling is in itself since then SI research organization seeing what other organizations where it's only for a family. And there's only one organization which is tragic sanctuary and -- around that I came across it actually. What holes here PD retreats my system keeps. And so are researching researching name we actually signed. Or -- a deer and trees and we actually sort last year. To their facility. And it was amazing. It was amazing -- surprised at the -- -- and so it's an ongoing thing with him just trying to -- a chance with the mainly you know he -- counseling we went to counseling as a alienate. And some progress made and that as much as we would have liked to see so after a week and went to retreat in Colorado. It was amazing for her. Because it's like -- -- to -- in nature I mean he was out in the opium which is nothing but trees. And it wasn't so much he had to watch his back like he was usually to do you know we both -- around the books and movies he has to sit in the same spot where he can see everything while we're out there he really wasn't paying attention to. He was an -- when nature you did horseback riding I mean it was colored the second negative twelve degrees. -- now I'm saying this I. He enjoyed it you know him the -- they won't -- -- back -- my parents. Of -- you can really relax it sounds like in that environment. Yea it was it was a situation to where we were secluded from everyday society and being named the camaraderie amongst other soldiers of course that was one of the positive things about being in the military. And so you there with other people who deal with some of the same symptoms and attributes of coming back from a combat. And so I feel comfortable. A feel comfortable and it was healing from me because it was in a non clinical setting you know no one likes to be especially my position. We don't like to be classified as a patient and this being sick or what have you. -- -- that they loved him so much and we had there was counselors the year there will social workers the year. There therapeutic recreation specialists -- year. That when patents mocks him in doctor smarts anything like that they would just communicating with this. Eleven us you know of course someone couldn't relate specifically to what. We've been through but it was Steelers don't support lightly sweet low which you and I couldn't do -- do you do which you've done and thank you so much state fed us. You know they cooked our flew by hand you know wasn't -- and that. It just -- so much. It was really good and my whole family was there I am and it just showed appreciation and has really put us on on a pedestal. And it was like I've gained it was like a five day when I retreat in it was yes it was actually had this experience. Since I've been military and we slept. It sounds so unique and what you're saying about you know somebody you know make in human meal from scratch I mean. And being outside being outdoors. There's something about it makes us all feel better you know that the connection with nature and the Chinese have like he saw the difference immediately he has different trends. And because there is no cellphones there -- -- computers they are no TVs. So everything and we do we have to do list of Ian Ian. And you know we -- do things maybe you know a couple of hours to beat you at home but we're talking six days. You know where we have to do everything together -- -- -- I mean my -- just enjoy playing monopoly with him clean check I mean that was so relaxes -- This is keenly you know they are now. And it was so much for. Dead bat an accompanying Colorado's a but it was really that I had -- right idea to did you come back from that experience thinking. I need to create -- actually here in central Texas absolutely no idea and we connect -- with Heather easily which is the executive director Antarctic sanctuary and she has in its court has only. Out all the support she's given that is right yeah and so she's encouraged says she's helped that's -- the way tennis where we need to do what not to do. What. Direction going and -- Thanks to approach what not so it's it's been great and in the past year which it hasn't even been a year because we started in -- paper over it. You know Brady -- December 22 and so hasn't even been a four year and the progress we've made it to me so you had a -- retreats this past year and we had a -- -- here insist and then dinner and we just want the community to be aware of who we ER right. And I first street is actually in March attacked our first issue would be in my aren't. And our potential site will be in China the Texas which is three hours away. So either a four iron and soldiers that are close -- can't main -- or. -- before -- it like they're still giving away from the every day Livni right because it's a three hour. You know track Bryant so is that in the CD. And then disconnecting from Mikey says the -- PDAs cell phones and all that making sure that you can kind of be present in the moment right there yeah and that until about how to take place so are you. So -- is the name of the project if you're just now joining us from inside Austin is healing our heroes project the web site. Is -- HOH project or kind of OK so that's -- get more information -- If somebody wants to attend this retreat in March is they're so ram to it to get and that retreat as a full yet. It's not falling ad because we can't on the web -- we have our days where the retreats and so. And there's also where you can China. You know there's application in the -- -- -- the date that she preferred content as a number of retreat to area you're number -- trees and we have six plant and they cheer packet that mr. -- sincerely pray. So you can look at the website and HRH project dot org and see which retreat -- Which retreat date might -- past and then got an application and go from there -- swing OK and that's exciting. This this idea of Gingrich treats I think is so and so healing just like the name says because you are talking about the whole family. You wanna keep the whole family together. And that's as I understand -- one of the problems when you come back and you're trying to move forward together. If you can't do it it just breaks that the entire family unit dance and one loss because. -- next year the member. That the service member in your family whether it was on now the husband of the wife the mother the father has opulence and -- So important for this country and then to come back -- have to sacrifice. The family unit for that it seems to me wrong and so many ways. Yes yes and you know say it's 9/11. Is actually being two point nine million soldiers that have a totally. It's are you thinking about all of these people they seem so much. How I process and it's how are they deal with that spat at the same when they come to our tree and it sounds -- NB a 100% -- because they won't. But it's it's and starred in the past as well I didn't healing started you know you know just for them -- in their -- may mean waste they haven't -- years. -- -- in the press -- of Italy skiing and then sold to Al sat. Best days of depression that he may he or she may be going through. You know it's estimated -- -- 100000 of those soldiers had ET EST. Did they know it now at some moment I have no idea. That -- came if this depression when Michael went through then the nightmares what is it. But sometimes they're not comfortable enough to go and sit you know I talked to someone like prince sick eating wanna BC he just wanted to be normal or are you happy he's almost a million people. Has PT SD. How -- touching them. And everyone who loves those people exactly EST I mean do you think about those numbers it's almost overwhelming it is an it is so hard. I mean. I've experienced. Like everybody else mild depression -- you know up and sad at times and getting up off the couch to go to the fridge seems like a big deal so I don't know how you begin to move forward. Piece by piece when you come back from being in a combat situation when you've been away from your family you know and it is about healing overtime right return because there's no magical cure. No quick fix but. Working at it over time. To get to where you are in the moment and you can you -- and let your loved ones right thanks for its current and that's that's this time. Well carpet you know of doing what we do just to let them know that paint pins some more here -- -- You know -- And excuse me we don't have all the answers but we have a ton of resources. You know if we don't happy if we can help you directly and we kind of pitching in the hands of someone that can help you know is this that say that. Every in every hour. -- sold to commit suicide I'm. -- thinking and a date yes when he four. I heroes. That has protected this great country for that -- like I can't do this anymore I'm just -- into. That's just so amazing to me because. You're you're sitting on the side of the fence hoping and praying may return from harm's way. And then they. It shouldn't happen it's just. It's just absolutely wrong. So thank goodness that you're here with healing our heroes project I mean this is extremely important work. Born out of your own situation so you can relate to every person. That they -- into contact with infants hey we're struggling we -- know what to do and I'm feeling really lost and it's tough on the kids and am I -- all been beaten. And that's why we used the technique of diversion air. I'm here in this time but wait a minute -- on this with my family you know. And that's touching yeah and -- -- way. Out and it must be so. I just think it's so hard on the soldier coming back trance because. You know your year in a situation where you gotta be tariffs he got a handle things and then you come home and where she still feel like that you know I got it got naked together and Hamels stuff and so opening up and communicating your vulnerabilities. Must be you know -- feel almost impossible to do. Here when you soldiers you when you monks who ranks this. There is a bit of his control factor. You know when this discipline and control factor. Being in part of the tang you know all of the soon what have you. And then you come back home you transition. To me uncontrollable. Environment. In which. There's so many variables are so many things coming -- team. You know noncombat related but -- just a readjustment process that's his beard -- difficult. -- form meaning meaning people not coming back. Even if you even if you have situations to where you have soldiers that may mean not specifically. Handle the weapon over there but just effected in -- now environment. Even coming back home to the states. -- steal a transition process is to re integration process. And needs to be healing process. And so that can be very very difficult and -- -- is sometimes hard to identify. You know in nineteen you do deal with depressive moment Tino how door handle. -- door handle things maybe in the deals that Tino had door handle discipline my Keats. But Q without going over port you know. This is very very difficult. Is -- very difficult and there are. You know. You know when you know military -- you know -- -- at soldier. EU QQ borders and take what is in newspapers city. We come back home. It's not you know is not be very specific because you just do we get from person dies when at its transition is -- weird if that the military counterpoint you in the right direction to help greener greater with -- not really. Much support there. Well actually the military and VA has been has named Mary it to me me you know literally help in helped us out even before we come back home is like a debriefing process. You know trying to beat you mean agreed to let them. I wish it was even a way where this is actually best tool to actually -- to go made in India efforts right now. To help that process you know as a matter of fact. Missile bombing dark by -- done in these -- and actually bring awareness to support this leave for family members. And other soldiers you know they have a program called joining forces to actually launch in 2011. And the program it actually incurs a society to give him much you support to our military families. So they actually -- being a floor runner in actually helping. You know organizations like this to help in that transition process claim is just you just have a lot of soldiers we talk about going back to Vietnam War Korean War. He -- government can only do so much and actually could mean their efforts litigate they can only do so much. So what they doing turn is help organizations like ask and encourage organizations. Like us to push. I division of humor it was project. And so that's one reason why we -- to China and Kurds even in civilian people people who just have a low when. Local military into more patriotic. To help when a process. And how can folks involved and help a team that can create a way. Actually what they can do they can go to our web site and they can actually sign up to be volunteers. Who now. All of our retreats that we have set up to military gators are we doing you don't have to be a soldier. To help -- and I it was project he is going -- -- was called and go to H a witch project at war. And sign up to be volunteered. And he will talk and we -- you -- out there you can definitely get Leo 1%. Let's get to know that because there's opportunities for volunteers to help but I think that's that would inspire a lot of people who feel indebted to our military. And are looking for a way to get back in May be they can't militarily. On -- of course you can imagine you're always looking for funds. Absolutely so -- can also make a donation at HOH project out of work right directly currents and -- not correct. So Winamp when a family ensures that the healing our heroes project and get involved what's the process. Well what we have we have a plan and we have a strategy and we like to customize team. Kind of what the weather is going on and indeed the whatever happens far as to whether. And that teams we have lined up so. Within this forty retreat. We have to do we have a couple of financial. Sessions. We have a couple of O'Meara tools sessions. And then of course we have activities in the keys when they come. It won't be a situation to with the children ages being babies act as a snack here peek at all. They actually have activities to where experience is required to interact with the family and well things we have all class -- that are. In the -- in. You know in the family activities and -- happy. So we actually do have a deep and plan you know comprised of those are things that we would have the -- the -- Pete would have acupuncture. We have again council was short counseling session it won't be in the hard. Deep counts we won't be like that because again. We don't want to soldiers to film -- why aren't there. A while the idea did not 100% required to participate. But he gained just me secluded and being amongst other soldiers that -- -- itself. Sure that you're just meeting them wherever they're at and meeting them at their level and when you feel comfortable. Go ahead. And if you don't feel comfortable you know Sharon's right and you know pressure because you lord knows have been under enough pressure he's grown hometown and that counts though. So important. OK and I know you'll have a fund raising event coming up this is the first annual Christmas in the barn is sorry that's correct. And that's taking place Thursday December 12 that's at the green red barn at heritage park include her though I'm not familiar with that. EA is it we'd like to -- communities can close and it. It's is kind of funny because of the last year we we hadn't been there was an event there Christians -- -- -- it was is so -- we -- elect a right. And Santa Claus he was out there. And it's it's just that is a big read green bar. My name is caddie and me it's it's outdoors Z. That the you know of course in May be a little chilly. But we we anticipate and haven't made the small choir singing some Christmas carols will I have. But they have food out here when analog designers like Indy. And we actually toy trapped between now Venus wail because. On that night and give kiss to all of our young ones also on yet so you would get -- welcome to. Even donate or bring toys we gonna wrap Marleau and given to the key. Guys know who no requirement on them and they show up and was let us know you coming. Half so we can make sure that we comedy -- will be really exciting time. We just gonna feed him. Stuff from real good no -- and have a mixture of things. We were thinking not to go the traditional Christmas in around so we may have. -- key mode also may have enchiladas and tacos you just never know I have. Also we in very different way. They provide recreational therapeutic retreats that are designed to provide support through relaxation and recreational activities and that's for active duty military veterans and their spouses and children. All of a mission to help keep families together. After completing their military service is innocent military families who are struggling after a service member has returned home. Killing our heroes project my chest what they mean. I'll also be talking with Tracy Gibbons -- Dixon and Kerry Collins about the American Lung Association plains and gulf region. And their mission to save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease. Education research and advocacy. And there's a fun opportunity for everyone in the family to get involved in the upcoming. Fight for -- climbed at the roster -- -- That's all coming up on inside Austin. And. They vary -- -- the point. I'm having a stroke he gonna -- my handle it I'm having a stroke. While you do not even moving your arm I'm having a stroke are you okay I'm having a stroke your face looks weird to I'm having a stroke. 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Some years ago with running catch the ball rolling -- than last year and half. And what we like to do we cater specifically to. Military. Families. And the soldiers is will you have a lot of organizations out there at that really cater to the soldier of my own. But what we elected to use actually focus on the whole family unit. Because as you know when he when he soldiers deploys. These owls who stays back home they've become the the core. I -- me -- once the soldier deploys. You know they become the mom that day at the person who handles finances and things like that. And so what we like to do. Exactly support them support the whole family you know once he returned home and so we can be they can be active duty. Soldiers they can be. Veterans of any past war pass conflict and so we just really like decayed -- -- children like you we appreciate what you do. And Regis and we just love won a regional council is all you. The comeback from a combat situation and then try to integrate in daily only -- Must be really hard as they're there it -- very difficult transition. I just coming in coming back home. Mean I've been in a couple of conflicts. Over in the Middle East and the biggest thing for me is just being normal thinking. You know -- anything fabulous but I just want to interact with ma am and want to be a husband he -- and want to be bothered keen interest to normal everyday things. Know the impacts are a lot to please is there appeared -- It's it's it's -- matter how long were you overseas parent. I spent close to three years total active to tour is back to back. In in 2000. -- 2000 by 2007. -- -- have a prolonged time away from your family I'll definitely -- him. And so what -- coming back that was hit when you talk about just -- to feel normal. How tough was that how long it take you to get there. I don't think you'd ever completely. Get past it he's just always so when going process of getting better day by day you know getting treatment. Doing counseling doing group sessions and things like that. And have been a strong support system. Just. Throughout the whole process so it is always gradually gets better I don't think when my opinion. I don't think a person can ever be completely heal a -- PT SD ranked -- my. Such an ironic situation -- You know the family is at home waiting for you come on you come home. Of course surveys excited to be reunited felt like I can imagine the intense joy that must be and what follows then. Isn't that happy ever after that you think Keller brings home safe and sound. But instead it's work of a different kind totally totally when he came back his First Solar. We had at that time maybe -- such endless and maybe ten in six or something like -- until course they remembered day so it was learned toilets a sixteen month seeing me he whose parent. I can I had that. Conflict -- it really wasn't day -- you know this is not the same -- Atlanta you know now he doesn't wanna be apart of mass where activities now he didn't wanna go to apart. Didn't wanna go sack me he doesn't wanna go to the movies -- -- -- do anything -- sit in the house so how do you explain that to children. Net okay yes this stat but that is different and when he was a full hour. So then the whole family has to go to the process of counseling. Because now we need to fix the family as a home and right in the middle of China speaks to family as a whole oh he gives lawyers again. And now he's. And new training 36 months later and then in the year he's got another year and a -- So and that's exactly what happened with as prince was time three years two and a half years old where in Afghanistan and Iraq. Until the second time they came back and Afghanistan. Wholly different -- Totally different feeling. So hard to diet -- and that's why I started my research in psychology. Because I need to figure out how could add -- Helped him -- at best serve camp how can I keep my children. Has this plane and it started just with taken -- at class at the community college and I went on and then went on to your. I just received my master's degree in me and and cast in psychology and so that's what I do and there's no better I sat still backing use my knowledge my experience in my education and -- what I know bands which is military family. So your precious China away. You saw the need and you and you just went for it yeah we have to work on that's all together and -- -- different today than it was worth three years ago the whole family is if not just him yeah everyone in the family unit it's totally different yeah. That -- form and he said that I'm guessing with the inspiration for healing our heroes project yes born out of your work when did it get it county like in a flash we work and I noodling it over for -- -- -- And what I know wanted to do counseling and that act -- -- Didn't reach as many people as Alan -- -- doing counseling is in itself since then SI research organization seeing what other organizations where it's only for a family. And there's only one organization which is tragic sanctuary and -- around that I came across it actually. What holes here PD retreats my system keeps. And so are researching researching name we actually signed. Or -- a deer and trees and we actually sort last year. To their facility. And it was amazing. It was amazing -- surprised at the -- -- and so it's an ongoing thing with him just trying to -- a chance with the mainly you know he -- counseling we went to counseling as a alienate. And some progress made and that as much as we would have liked to see so after a week and went to retreat in Colorado. It was amazing for her. Because it's like -- -- to -- in nature I mean he was out in the opium which is nothing but trees. And it wasn't so much he had to watch his back like he was usually to do you know we both -- around the books and movies he has to sit in the same spot where he can see everything while we're out there he really wasn't paying attention to. He was an -- when nature you did horseback riding I mean it was colored the second negative twelve degrees. -- now I'm saying this I. He enjoyed it you know him the -- they won't -- -- back -- my parents. Of -- you can really relax it sounds like in that environment. Yea it was it was a situation to where we were secluded from everyday society and being named the camaraderie amongst other soldiers of course that was one of the positive things about being in the military. And so you there with other people who deal with some of the same symptoms and attributes of coming back from a combat. And so I feel comfortable. A feel comfortable and it was healing from me because it was in a non clinical setting you know no one likes to be especially my position. We don't like to be classified as a patient and this being sick or what have you. -- -- that they loved him so much and we had there was counselors the year there will social workers the year. There therapeutic recreation specialists -- year. That when patents mocks him in doctor smarts anything like that they would just communicating with this. Eleven us you know of course someone couldn't relate specifically to what. We've been through but it was Steelers don't support lightly sweet low which you and I couldn't do -- do you do which you've done and thank you so much state fed us. You know they cooked our flew by hand you know wasn't -- and that. It just -- so much. It was really good and my whole family was there I am and it just showed appreciation and has really put us on on a pedestal. And it was like I've gained it was like a five day when I retreat in it was yes it was actually had this experience. Since I've been military and we slept. It sounds so unique and what you're saying about you know somebody you know make in human meal from scratch I mean. And being outside being outdoors. There's something about it makes us all feel better you know that the connection with nature and the Chinese have like he saw the difference immediately he has different trends. And because there is no cellphones there -- -- computers they are no TVs. So everything and we do we have to do list of Ian Ian. And you know we -- do things maybe you know a couple of hours to beat you at home but we're talking six days. You know where we have to do everything together -- -- -- I mean my -- just enjoy playing monopoly with him clean check I mean that was so relaxes -- This is keenly you know they are now. And it was so much for. Dead bat an accompanying Colorado's a but it was really that I had -- right idea to did you come back from that experience thinking. I need to create -- actually here in central Texas absolutely no idea and we connect -- with Heather easily which is the executive director Antarctic sanctuary and she has in its court has only. Out all the support she's given that is right yeah and so she's encouraged says she's helped that's -- the way tennis where we need to do what not to do. What. Direction going and -- Thanks to approach what not so it's it's been great and in the past year which it hasn't even been a year because we started in -- paper over it. You know Brady -- December 22 and so hasn't even been a four year and the progress we've made it to me so you had a -- retreats this past year and we had a -- -- here insist and then dinner and we just want the community to be aware of who we ER right. And I first street is actually in March attacked our first issue would be in my aren't. And our potential site will be in China the Texas which is three hours away. So either a four iron and soldiers that are close -- can't main -- or. -- before -- it like they're still giving away from the every day Livni right because it's a three hour. You know track Bryant so is that in the CD. And then disconnecting from Mikey says the -- PDAs cell phones and all that making sure that you can kind of be present in the moment right there yeah and that until about how to take place so are you. So -- is the name of the project if you're just now joining us from inside Austin is healing our heroes project the web site. Is -- HOH project or kind of OK so that's -- get more information -- If somebody wants to attend this retreat in March is they're so ram to it to get and that retreat as a full yet. It's not falling ad because we can't on the web -- we have our days where the retreats and so. And there's also where you can China. You know there's application in the -- -- -- the date that she preferred content as a number of retreat to area you're number -- trees and we have six plant and they cheer packet that mr. -- sincerely pray. So you can look at the website and HRH project dot org and see which retreat -- Which retreat date might -- past and then got an application and go from there -- swing OK and that's exciting. This this idea of Gingrich treats I think is so and so healing just like the name says because you are talking about the whole family. You wanna keep the whole family together. And that's as I understand -- one of the problems when you come back and you're trying to move forward together. If you can't do it it just breaks that the entire family unit dance and one loss because. -- next year the member. That the service member in your family whether it was on now the husband of the wife the mother the father has opulence and -- So important for this country and then to come back -- have to sacrifice. The family unit for that it seems to me wrong and so many ways. Yes yes and you know say it's 9/11. Is actually being two point nine million soldiers that have a totally. It's are you thinking about all of these people they seem so much. How I process and it's how are they deal with that spat at the same when they come to our tree and it sounds -- NB a 100% -- because they won't. But it's it's and starred in the past as well I didn't healing started you know you know just for them -- in their -- may mean waste they haven't -- years. -- -- in the press -- of Italy skiing and then sold to Al sat. Best days of depression that he may he or she may be going through. You know it's estimated -- -- 100000 of those soldiers had ET EST. Did they know it now at some moment I have no idea. That -- came if this depression when Michael went through then the nightmares what is it. But sometimes they're not comfortable enough to go and sit you know I talked to someone like prince sick eating wanna BC he just wanted to be normal or are you happy he's almost a million people. Has PT SD. How -- touching them. And everyone who loves those people exactly EST I mean do you think about those numbers it's almost overwhelming it is an it is so hard. I mean. I've experienced. Like everybody else mild depression -- you know up and sad at times and getting up off the couch to go to the fridge seems like a big deal so I don't know how you begin to move forward. Piece by piece when you come back from being in a combat situation when you've been away from your family you know and it is about healing overtime right return because there's no magical cure. No quick fix but. Working at it over time. To get to where you are in the moment and you can you -- and let your loved ones right thanks for its current and that's that's this time. Well carpet you know of doing what we do just to let them know that paint pins some more here -- -- You know -- And excuse me we don't have all the answers but we have a ton of resources. You know if we don't happy if we can help you directly and we kind of pitching in the hands of someone that can help you know is this that say that. Every in every hour. -- sold to commit suicide I'm. -- thinking and a date yes when he four. I heroes. That has protected this great country for that -- like I can't do this anymore I'm just -- into. That's just so amazing to me because. You're you're sitting on the side of the fence hoping and praying may return from harm's way. And then they. It shouldn't happen it's just. It's just absolutely wrong. So thank goodness that you're here with healing our heroes project I mean this is extremely important work. Born out of your own situation so you can relate to every person. That they -- into contact with infants hey we're struggling we -- know what to do and I'm feeling really lost and it's tough on the kids and am I -- all been beaten. And that's why we used the technique of diversion air. I'm here in this time but wait a minute -- on this with my family you know. And that's touching yeah and -- -- way. Out and it must be so. I just think it's so hard on the soldier coming back trance because. You know your year in a situation where you gotta be tariffs he got a handle things and then you come home and where she still feel like that you know I got it got naked together and Hamels stuff and so opening up and communicating your vulnerabilities. Must be you know -- feel almost impossible to do. Here when you soldiers you when you monks who ranks this. There is a bit of his control factor. You know when this discipline and control factor. Being in part of the tang you know all of the soon what have you. And then you come back home you transition. To me uncontrollable. Environment. In which. There's so many variables are so many things coming -- team. You know noncombat related but -- just a readjustment process that's his beard -- difficult. -- form meaning meaning people not coming back. Even if you even if you have situations to where you have soldiers that may mean not specifically. Handle the weapon over there but just effected in -- now environment. Even coming back home to the states. -- steal a transition process is to re integration process. And needs to be healing process. And so that can be very very difficult and -- -- is sometimes hard to identify. You know in nineteen you do deal with depressive moment Tino how door handle. -- door handle things maybe in the deals that Tino had door handle discipline my Keats. But Q without going over port you know. This is very very difficult. Is -- very difficult and there are. You know. You know when you know military -- you know -- -- at soldier. EU QQ borders and take what is in newspapers city. We come back home. It's not you know is not be very specific because you just do we get from person dies when at its transition is -- weird if that the military counterpoint you in the right direction to help greener greater with -- not really. Much support there. Well actually the military and VA has been has named Mary it to me me you know literally help in helped us out even before we come back home is like a debriefing process. You know trying to beat you mean agreed to let them. I wish it was even a way where this is actually best tool to actually -- to go made in India efforts right now. To help that process you know as a matter of fact. Missile bombing dark by -- done in these -- and actually bring awareness to support this leave for family members. And other soldiers you know they have a program called joining forces to actually launch in 2011. And the program it actually incurs a society to give him much you support to our military families. So they actually -- being a floor runner in actually helping. You know organizations like this to help in that transition process claim is just you just have a lot of soldiers we talk about going back to Vietnam War Korean War. He -- government can only do so much and actually could mean their efforts litigate they can only do so much. So what they doing turn is help organizations like ask and encourage organizations. Like us to push. I division of humor it was project. And so that's one reason why we -- to China and Kurds even in civilian people people who just have a low when. Local military into more patriotic. To help when a process. And how can folks involved and help a team that can create a way. Actually what they can do they can go to our web site and they can actually sign up to be volunteers. Who now. All of our retreats that we have set up to military gators are we doing you don't have to be a soldier. To help -- and I it was project he is going -- -- was called and go to H a witch project at war. And sign up to be volunteered. And he will talk and we -- you -- out there you can definitely get Leo 1%. Let's get to know that because there's opportunities for volunteers to help but I think that's that would inspire a lot of people who feel indebted to our military. And are looking for a way to get back in May be they can't militarily. On -- of course you can imagine you're always looking for funds. Absolutely so -- can also make a donation at HOH project out of work right directly currents and -- not correct. So Winamp when a family ensures that the healing our heroes project and get involved what's the process. Well what we have we have a plan and we have a strategy and we like to customize team. Kind of what the weather is going on and indeed the whatever happens far as to whether. And that teams we have lined up so. Within this forty retreat. We have to do we have a couple of financial. Sessions. We have a couple of O'Meara tools sessions. And then of course we have activities in the keys when they come. It won't be a situation to with the children ages being babies act as a snack here peek at all. They actually have activities to where experience is required to interact with the family and well things we have all class -- that are. In the -- in. You know in the family activities and -- happy. So we actually do have a deep and plan you know comprised of those are things that we would have the -- the -- Pete would have acupuncture. We have again council was short counseling session it won't be in the hard. Deep counts we won't be like that because again. We don't want to soldiers to film -- why aren't there. A while the idea did not 100% required to participate. But he gained just me secluded and being amongst other soldiers that -- -- itself. Sure that you're just meeting them wherever they're at and meeting them at their level and when you feel comfortable. Go ahead. And if you don't feel comfortable you know Sharon's right and you know pressure because you lord knows have been under enough pressure he's grown hometown and that counts though. So important. OK and I know you'll have a fund raising event coming up this is the first annual Christmas in the barn is sorry that's correct. And that's taking place Thursday December 12 that's at the green red barn at heritage park include her though I'm not familiar with that. EA is it we'd like to -- communities can close and it. It's is kind of funny because of the last year we we hadn't been there was an event there Christians -- -- -- it was is so -- we -- elect a right. And Santa Claus he was out there. And it's it's just that is a big read green bar. My name is caddie and me it's it's outdoors Z. That the you know of course in May be a little chilly. But we we anticipate and haven't made the small choir singing some Christmas carols will I have. But they have food out here when analog designers like Indy. And we actually toy trapped between now Venus wail because. On that night and give kiss to all of our young ones also on yet so you would get -- welcome to. Even donate or bring toys we gonna wrap Marleau and given to the key. Guys know who no requirement on them and they show up and was let us know you coming. Half so we can make sure that we comedy -- will be really exciting time. We just gonna feed him. Stuff from real good no -- and have a mixture of things. We were thinking not to go the traditional Christmas in around so we may have. -- key mode also may have enchiladas and tacos you just never know I have. Also we we just -- kind of mix it up but we just when you -- -- come out. And and support you know mainly -- enemies and to see earnings came in Christmas. Level with 29 appreciate what you. Yeah if -- concert again last Thursday December 12 at 6 PM. The first annual Christmas in the barn and is it an -- that raises the green red -- yeah heritage park and -- just the nature. I think the Harrisburg can enter now. It sounds like a wonderful event to be left up punished so different violence if that's dramatic. This is prince Humphreys director of operations for healing our heroes project we've also been talking too much Rhonda -- -- the executive director. The website H and H project dot org if The first annual Christmas in the barn and is it an -- that raises the green red -- yeah heritage park and -- just the nature. I think the Harrisburg can enter now. It sounds like a wonderful event to be left up punished so different violence if that's dramatic. This is prince Humphreys director of operations for healing our heroes project we've also been talking too much Rhonda -- -- the executive director. The website H and H project dot org if

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